The Moonkin Repository

See attached. Based for Alliance and Horde Moonkins with a Lunar rotation

Hmm very interesting, I thought for sure that the Handwraps of the Vigilant would be BIS gloves cuz I figured the t8 gloves with just spower/hit were trash. The Handwraps of the Vigilant have more intel/spirit, 17 more crit, 2more spower and 2 yellow sockets vs. 1 blue socket and a better bonus. That seems like a hell of an upgrade.

Also I feel like Soulscribe + a 239 OH would be better for a Lunar Eclipse Rotation. Assuming you socketed the staff with 2 19spower gems and got 81 spower enchant, then you would only be losing 28 spower, 78 crit, while you would be gaining 89 haste w/ surplus limb as your OH. Now while thats prolly not a fair trade, Since there seems to be no viable DPS caster OHs that drop anywhere in Ulduar, I am going to assume that Algalon drops one. If the OH turns out to be really good than its very feasable I think that the Dagger from Yogg would be better for Lunar Eclipse.

Also I think it would make a lot of sense that Eye of the Broodmother and Illustration do not stack, in which case Im sure Flare of the Heavens would be next in line for the second trinket spot. 120 crit rating + Chance on Hit for 850 spower for 10 seconds.

Why wouldn't they stack? they are seperate trinkets. i think they would be pretty sick trinkets if u got both of them. Now i don't know if Brood mother trinket is better but it does seem to be a pretty sweet trinket.

After a quick look this looks like a good list, but lets remember that there is still a lot we don't know. Most of the hard mode gear hasn't made it to the databases yet. Expect a lot of changes.

the hard mode loot tables are COMPLETEly available with expection uf algalon (which so far will take some time to even gain access to him), as mmo-champion stated today.

Yes all gear from Ulduar including hard mode encounters has been compiled on mmochampion thanks to blizzard updating armory. Now I think that we should just completely ignore Algalon for the time being, and just focus on the gear list from the current bosses. It will be so long before anyone period kills him, and even longer before a good percentage of the moonkin here kill him frequently enough to plan for gear for him.

Thats what so awesome about this list, the only hard mode encounter that will challenging for one of our BIS items is the staff off Hodir hard mode. Then 3 of our BIS items (Neck, Shoulders, and Boots) drop off Leviathan hard mode, which is arguably the easiest hard mode in the entire instance.

If this list is correct, then I think we got very lucky on the hard mode encounters which drop our BIS, as well as the amount of items that we will be keeping on from t7 content throughout Ulduar.

And this list has Horde at about 25 hit below the cap, so since this is without enchants, we will be 13 below the cap after Icewalker. I wonder if it would actually be beneficial to gem one slot w/ hit, or just bite the bullet and risk that .5% of missing on a spell.

what program do i need to view this list??

I thought it was excel...but i couldnt open it w/ exel...what prog do you use??

EDIT: Nvm...i figured out my problem...and possibly yours as well. The file is an excel spreadsheet...like i thought it was. But, he made it in excel 2007, and the 2007 edition saves files as xlsx files. If you have Excel 2003 or older it will not be able to open this file without it being converted. If anyone needs a link to the converter let me know...im DL'ing it as i type =D

EDIT2: I am still unable to view the file...the converter doesn't seem to work -.- Is it possible we could simply get a list posted with the BIS items? something that isnt a spreadsheet? Thanks

Yea I will update it later in the week when the new hard mode item should of flown though to wowhead. I getting my ranged officer to run a simcraft to try to get an updated rating.

Try http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en Blamlin

For your perusal - my personal BIS list has a few differences, things I'm still pondering, etc. I'm waiting for everything to be included in Wowhead's DB before I finalize my list. This one's Naturi's:

Head: Conqueror's Nightsong Headpiece (resto)
Neck: Pendant of Fiery Havoc
Shoulder: Shoulderpads of Dormant Energies
Back: Pennant Cloak
Chest: Robes of the Umbral Brute
Wrist: Bracers of Unleashed Magic
Hands: Conqueror's Nightsong Gloves
Waist: Sash of Ancient Power
Legs: Conqueror's Nightsong Trousers
Feet: Boots of Fiery Resolution

Ring1: Signet of Manifested Pain
Ring2: Pyrelight Circle

Weapon: Staff of Endless Winter
Idol: Idol of the Shooting Star

Trinket1: Eye of the Broodmother
Trinket2: Illustration of the Dragon Soul

nice list but i think the wyrmhunter is better than using that resto helm... plus you can just get a crit spell or haste spell belt instead of that hit one...

OK, thinking about it further I figured I might as well post for comparison what I've come up with - these are based on Shadowbadger's lunar eclipse stat weights as given in the 3.1 gear sticky thread...

Head: Collar of the Wyrmhunter
Neck: Pendant of the Shallow Grave
Shoulder: Conqueror's Nightsong Mantle
Back: Drape of Mortal Downfall
Chest: Conqueror's Nightsong Vestments
Wrist: Bracers of Unleashed Magic
Hands: Handwraps of the Vigilant
Waist: Sash of Ancient Power
Legs: Leggings of the Enslaved Idol
Feet: Boots of Fiery Resolution

Ring1: Signet of Manifested Pain
Ring2: Pyrelight Circle

Weapon: Staff of Endless Winter
Idol: Idol of the Shooting Star

Trinket1: Eye of the Broodmother
Trinket2: Illustration of the Dragon Soul

I haven't quite decided on trinkets yet - so I left them the same as Naturi's list... I've also considered Scale of Fates as an alternative - since my guild has only ever gotten one Illustration, I'd probably use it instead of that trinket, as opposed to running Sartharion pugs every week hoping to outroll the PUGs. >.<

Note that my list gives the following (ungemmed, unenchanted):

Hit: 241
Spell power: 1999
Haste: 398 - which makes it perfect for a solar rotation, even though I used the lunar rotation weights...
Crit: 574
Int: 902
Spi: 321

And 17 sockets, which more than covers the difference in haste between Naturi's list and mine.... although gemming for haste still isn't notably great, it gives a potential 195 extra spellpower. Food for thought.

Did some playing around with possibilities for pre-hard mode loot only, and it's a lot more haste-heavy - around 600 haste, 431 crit with the listed trinkets... but uses T8 legs/shoulders, and a few different slots to get hit capped.

I think as a community we need to figure out what 2 pieces of tier we are going to use.
Using the new number my ranged officer just calculated for me

Hit int spirit spell crit haste

2.44 0.51 0.21 1.35 0.89 1.04

I have weight all the tier items with and with out hit

http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=46189;4 ... ;1:1:0:0:0

http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=46189;4 ... :1:1:0:0:0

I think that the items with out weight in hit would be better, later ill compare each tier item with its best hit/none hit non-teir gear

My personal method was to give hit a zero weight (I used Shadowbadger's stat weights instead of Graylo's, but that's neither here nor there, I could re-do my method with different weights), and do three lists: the item for each slot that had the highest score, the item with HIT for each slot that had the highest score, and the balance T8 pieces. Then I compared the score for the hit items and the T8 items to the highest score for that slot... in most cases, that gave me a negative number (unless the overall highest score also had hit rating on it).

I then took the two highest comparative scores (least negative) from my T8 list and plugged it into a 4th list - my suggested BIS. After that, I started plugging in the items from the hit rating list that were the best compared to the overall high score list, until I reached at least 237 hit rating, then filled in the rest of the slots with the item from the high score list.

That methodology may not be the best way of figuring it out - I certainly am not known as a math person by any stretch of the imagination - but it made the most sense to me.

My biggest concern right now is that someone who IS a math person take a look at the 4pc T8 proc and what it's worth, since it appears from people who have tested it on live that the 3 minute internal cooldown that was datamined is not accurate, and there is no ICD. Since most of our T8 pieces are pretty poor in comparison to the best available non-set items, it would be most helpful to know if the value of the proc makes up for that.

When I get time tomorrow I will do the maths for the tier compared to the others.

I got the rankings for hit gear and the rankings for non-hit gear. Excluding the 2 tier. Then saw what the rankings where between them abd slowly reduced the hit rating. Though your way is better, ill try that tomorrow.